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Re: TN: 1983 Bordeaux at Mortons Steakhouse, NYC

by Mark Lipton <notpil@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 11, 2008 at 03:16 PM

DaleW wrote:
> Last night 8 good geeks gathered at Mortons to sample through some
> 1983 Bordeaux. This was originally supposed to be a Barton/Poyferre
> comparison,but a couple crucial people couldn't do this month, so we
> had a horizontal instead. A good group, with strong (sometimes
> divided) opinions, but all fun to be with. I quite enjoyed myself- the
> company was better than the wine, but the wine wasn't bad at all!

What a great lineup of wines, Dale!  It speaks well for the company that 
they were better.


> 1983 Ch. Gruaud Larose (St Julien)
> I get that Cordier funk right away. When I remark, someone says "what
> brett?" while Paul is pu****ng away his glass saying too much brett.
> Ah, the variabilities of brett sensitivity. This amount (and strain)
> of brett doesn't bother me at all. It's more cow pasture than bandaid,
> more animal than sewage. The fruit is rich and dark, the wine
> structured and virile. Cassis, tobacco, barnyard, and spice. A-
> 

Count me among the Brett-tolerant (more or less essential for a lover of 
Red Rhones), but I know what you mean about the strain, too. 
Gruaud-Larose (and Meyney) has always had a meaty, animal element that I 
know is probably Brett (no Mourvedre here!) but which I find quite 
appealing.


> 1983 Ch. Palmer (Margaux)
> I liked most of the wines, but this was my WOTN without question. I've
> had some '83 Palmers that made me wonder what the fuss was, but the
> last 3 I've tried have been marvelous. Beautiful, full, lush, very
> young fruit but with lovely secondary aromas of cigarbox and leather.
> Some cocoa mixed in with that lush fruit, too. Iron fist in velvet
> glove, etc. A/A-

No surprise, given how successful Margaux was in '83.  Too bad no one 
brought the Ch. Margaux for a head-to-head.  (It just happens also to be 
the only '83 left in our cellar).

Mark Lipton

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TN: 1983 Bordeaux at Mortons Steakhouse, NYC
DaleW <Dwmidnt@[EMAIL   2008-08-08 06:23:22 
Re: TN: 1983 Bordeaux at Mortons Steakhouse, NYC
"Bi!!" <rvwr  2008-08-08 09:24:46 
Re: TN: 1983 Bordeaux at Mortons Steakhouse, NYC
DaleW <Dwmidnt@[EMAIL   2008-08-08 09:30:00 
Re: TN: 1983 Bordeaux at Mortons Steakhouse, NYC
Mark Lipton <notpil@[E  2008-08-11 15:16:02 
Re: TN: 1983 Bordeaux at Mortons Steakhouse, NYC
DaleW <Dwmidnt@[EMAIL   2008-08-11 12:45:00 
Re: TN: 1983 Bordeaux at Mortons Steakhouse, NYC
Mark Lipton <notpil@[E  2008-08-11 15:49:13 

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