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Re: TN: 1983 Bordeaux at Mortons Steakhouse, NYC

by DaleW <Dwmidnt@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Aug 11, 2008 at 12:45 PM

On Aug 11, 3:16=EF=BF=BDpm, Mark Lipton <not...@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
> DaleW wrote:
> > Last night 8 good geeks gathered at Mortons to sample through some
> > 1983 Bordeaux. This was originally supposed to be a Barton/Poyferre
> > comparison,but a couple crucial people couldn't do this month, so we
> > had a horizontal instead. A good group, with strong (sometimes
> > divided) opinions, but all fun to be with. I quite enjoyed myself- the
> > company was better than the wine, but the wine wasn't bad at all!
>
> What a great lineup of wines, Dale! =EF=BF=BDIt speaks well for the
compa=
ny that
> they were better.
>
> > 1983 Ch. Gruaud Larose (St Julien)
> > I get that Cordier funk right away. When I remark, someone says "what
> > brett?" while Paul is pu****ng away his glass saying too much brett.
> > Ah, the variabilities of brett sensitivity. This amount (and strain)
> > of brett doesn't bother me at all. It's more cow pasture than bandaid,
> > more animal than sewage. The fruit is rich and dark, the wine
> > structured and virile. Cassis, tobacco, barnyard, and spice. A-
>
> Count me among the Brett-tolerant (more or less essential for a lover of
> Red Rhones), but I know what you mean about the strain, too.
> Gruaud-Larose (and Meyney) has always had a meaty, animal element that I
> know is probably Brett (no Mourvedre here!) but which I find quite
> appealing.
>
> > 1983 Ch. Palmer (Margaux)
> > I liked most of the wines, but this was my WOTN without question. I've
> > had some '83 Palmers that made me wonder what the fuss was, but the
> > last 3 I've tried have been marvelous. Beautiful, full, lush, very
> > young fruit but with lovely secondary aromas of cigarbox and leather.
> > Some cocoa mixed in with that lush fruit, too. Iron fist in velvet
> > glove, etc. A/A-
>
> No surprise, given how successful Margaux was in '83. =EF=BF=BDToo bad
no=
 one
> brought the Ch. Margaux for a head-to-head. =EF=BF=BD(It just happens
als=
o to be
> the only '83 left in our cellar).
>
> Mark Lipton
>
> --
> alt.food.wine FAQ: =EF=BF=BDhttp://winefaq.cwdjr.net

Nice orphan. Would have loved to try head to head with Palmer (and
RS), but as its a $4-500 bottle would have seemed a bit presumptious
to ask if someone else had it! :)
 




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TN: 1983 Bordeaux at Mortons Steakhouse, NYC
DaleW <Dwmidnt@[EMAIL   2008-08-08 06:23:22 
Re: TN: 1983 Bordeaux at Mortons Steakhouse, NYC
"Bi!!" <rvwr  2008-08-08 09:24:46 
Re: TN: 1983 Bordeaux at Mortons Steakhouse, NYC
DaleW <Dwmidnt@[EMAIL   2008-08-08 09:30:00 
Re: TN: 1983 Bordeaux at Mortons Steakhouse, NYC
Mark Lipton <notpil@[E  2008-08-11 15:16:02 
Re: TN: 1983 Bordeaux at Mortons Steakhouse, NYC
DaleW <Dwmidnt@[EMAIL   2008-08-11 12:45:00 
Re: TN: 1983 Bordeaux at Mortons Steakhouse, NYC
Mark Lipton <notpil@[E  2008-08-11 15:49:13 

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