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Re: Anyone ever heard of "Red" hops?

by Bill Velek <billvelek@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Nov 3, 2007 at 10:20 AM

SBartz@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:

> That's my recollection, too.  I've heard of Saaz hops referred to as
"red".

> "Brewer Bob" <bob-girolamonospam@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message

snip

>>I might be wrong but, I remember the Zatec region of Czech Republic
being 
>>referred to as Red(translated of course) so, perhaps you are using Czech

>>Saaz?  Are they delicate and floral with a hint of grassiness?

Thanks to all for the replies.

In a previous post, Denny Conn said:
 > Bill, all I can think of is that they're old. I know my older hops get
 > a reddish/orange hue to the lupulin.  Other than that, no ideas....

Because they were sent to me from an Herbal Shop, I have no idea how old 
they are.  Also, you've raised a good point in my mind; I don't know if 
this herbalist has the faintest idea of how to properly store hops, but 
I guess I'll know in another couple of weeks whether it's good to use.

As for lupulin changing color with age, I have no idea.  This is my 
first year to grow hops, so they haven't aged yet.  The commercial hops 
I use are usually pellets, so I can't judge the color of any lupulin, 
and when I've used whole hops, I've dumped the bag into the kettle 
without ever really looking at them much.  But I do want to point out 
that some types of hops are _supposed_ to have an "orange" hue to them; 
per Hop Union -- http://www.hopunion.com/hopunion-variety-databook.pdf

-- both Chinook and Nugget have lupulin that is "yellow-orange" in 
color.  On the other hand, it describes both US Saaz and Czech Saaz as 
having lupulin that is "pale yellow".

As for their aroma, I don't have any left and I can't recall specifics 
of what it smelled like over a week ago except to say that it had a very 
strong odor (not what I would call "delicate") which I would describe as 
very herbal rather than "floral" -- more like spices than flowers -- and 
I can't recall any grassiness at all.  I'm still wondering if these were 
supposed to be _brewing_ hops or some variety that is primarily used for 
decoration, wreaths, and hop pillows.  But I'll be sure to post results.

Incidentally, I have a question re hops storage: if hops are exposed to 
oxygen during storage, but are otherwise properly stored (sealed and 
frozen), does anyone know if it is primarily the AA% that degrades? ... 
or do the components that contribute to aroma and flavor also oxidize?

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 7 Posts in Topic:
Anyone ever heard of "Red" hops?
Bill Velek <billvelek@  2007-11-01 12:03:12 
Re: Anyone ever heard of "Red" hops?
"Thomas T. Veldhouse  2007-11-01 17:18:05 
Re: Anyone ever heard of "Red" hops?
Denny Conn <denny.g.co  2007-11-02 08:51:19 
Re: Anyone ever heard of "Red" hops?
Brewer Bob <bob-girola  2007-11-02 12:21:23 
Re: Anyone ever heard of "Red" hops?
<SBartz@[EMAIL PROTECT  2007-11-02 20:40:28 
Re: Anyone ever heard of "Red" hops?
Bill Velek <billvelek@  2007-11-03 10:20:40 
Re: Anyone ever heard of "Red" hops?
aaronk <amk43@[EMAIL P  2007-11-04 08:34:38 

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