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Re: Couple of new articles: even more impact on barley prices could be coming

by "Duke" <noty@[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Dec 18, 2007 at 05:48 PM

"Bill Velek" <billvelek@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote in message 
news:20c49$4767ef8f$6214fb50$6536@[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> "As Ethanol Takes Its First Steps, Congress Proposes a Giant Leap" 
> http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/18/wa****ngton/18ethanol.html?th&emc=th
> = http://tinyurl.com/3dbq9f
(TinyUrl in case first link breaks).
>
> Some excerpts from the article:
> "Producing about seven billion gallons of ethanol a year from corn has 
> reshaped agricultural markets and sent corn prices soaring. Congress
wants 
> to double that level of production, to 15 billion gallons."
> ...
> "The new legislation would OBLIGE farmers to grow NEW crops in new ways,

> ...". (CAPS are my emphasis)
>
> I haven't read the bill, but that last sentence sounds like farmers who 
> grow barley, for instance, could be OBLIGED to grow corn as a NEW crop. 
> Sounds completely un-American to me and I don't see how the government
can 
> do such a thing, but then maybe they're referring to a little arm 
> twisting -- e.g., 'if you want your farm subsidy over here ... or your
tax 
> credit over there ... then you will grow corn for ethanol'.
>
> And then this second article ...
> "Food and Fuel Compete for Land"
>
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/18/business/18food.html?pagewanted=1&th&emc=th
> = http://tinyurl.com/yvnc37
(TinyUrl in case first link breaks).
>
> Excerpts:
> "In Oregon, Jack Joyce, the owner of Rogue Ales, said the cost of barley

> malt has soared 88 percent this year."
> ...
> "Last week, the Senate voted 86 to 8 for a new energy bill containing 
> expanded ethanol mandates, and the House is expected to follow suit this

> week."
>
> So, it looks to me like our higher barley prices are probably here to 
> stay.  I don't know whether ethanol production is a good idea or not,
but 
> I also worry about the impact on our land and water resources.  I was 
> watching a TV show just last week that was speaking about our water 
> crisis, our dimini****ng aquafers, the possibility of a long-term
drought, 
> and that corn needs heavy irrigation compared to other grains like wheat

> (didn't menton barley).  I'm no farmer, so I don't know how they
compare. 
> I'd just hate to wake up ten years from now in the midst of another dust

> bowl where we can't irrigate and produce even enough food to eat, let 
> alone to make ethanol.
>
> My son insists that if we would grow hemp (NOT the kind with THC), that
we 
> could produce FAR more energy than with corn, but the U.S. bans the
growth 
> of hemp, unlike Canada (supposedly) and other nations.  It just seems
that 
> our legislators in Wa****ngton always have their heads up their *****.
>
> Cheers ... but not much to be cheerful about with that news.
>
> Bill Velek - PERSONAL sites = www.velek.com & www.2plus2is4.com
> 780+ homebrewer group just for Equipment: www.tinyurl.com/axuol
> 630+ just for Growing Hops/Herbs/Grains: www.tinyurl.com/3au2uv
> NEW group just for Homebrewing Supplies: www.tinyurl.com/2wnang
> Join 'Homebrewers' to Help Cure Disease: www.tinyurl.com/yjlnyv



IMO - Hemp w/o THC, is like Coffee w/o Caffeine, is like Homebrew w/o 
alcohol; none of which make any sense to me.    :)      j/k   just
couldn't 
resist !
 




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Couple of new articles: even more impact on barley prices could
Bill Velek <billvelek@  2007-12-18 10:04:17 
Re: Couple of new articles: even more impact on barley prices co
"Duke" <noty  2007-12-18 17:48:24 
Re: Couple of new articles: even more impact on barley prices co
"Brian Bartz" &  2007-12-18 18:23:34 
Re: Couple of new articles: even more impact on barley prices co
F. George McDuffee <gm  2007-12-18 14:13:34 
Re: Couple of new articles: even more impact on barley prices co
The Artist Formerly Known  2007-12-18 14:34:28 
Re: Couple of new articles: even more impact on barley prices co
F. George McDuffee <gm  2007-12-18 20:14:24 
Re: Couple of new articles: even more impact on barley prices co
The Artist Formerly Known  2007-12-19 09:12:39 
Re: Couple of new articles: even more impact on barley prices co
F. George McDuffee <gm  2007-12-19 15:47:54 
Re: Couple of new articles: even more impact on barley prices co
"Mark R" <mr  2007-12-20 09:40:15 
Re: Couple of new articles: even more impact on barley prices co
Denny Conn <denny@[EMA  2007-12-21 08:03:34 
Re: Couple of new articles: even more impact on barley prices co
Scott Sellers <scottse  2007-12-19 17:26:22 
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Scott Sellers <scottse  2007-12-19 01:42:22 
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Bill Davidsen <davidse  2008-02-04 17:24:16 
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Bill Davidsen <davidse  2008-02-04 17:23:04 
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Bill Velek <billvelek@  2007-12-18 16:40:52 
Re: Couple of new articles: even more impact on barley prices co
pashby@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-12-19 08:08:41 
Re: Couple of new articles: even more impact on barley prices co
Bill Velek <billvelek@  2007-12-19 11:21:08 
Re: Couple of new articles: even more impact on barley prices co
pashby@[EMAIL PROTECTED]   2007-12-19 22:11:56 

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